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Jan 26, 2014 | 1:13 pm
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XFed2001
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Z1 C-Pap Machine
Just saw an ad for the allegedly world's smallest integrated c-pap. Only 10 ounces and fits in palm of hand. Checked its maker, shop.hdmusa.com site. A bit pricey but it is very compact and looks to be a traveler's boon. Base unit is $495 (8+ hours) plus another $400 for a charging shell. Extra batteries are available for up 14 hours. Any one tested this out yet? Please share your experience ......
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Jan 26, 2014 | 1:35 pm
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glennaa11
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There's a short thread here
http://www.apneasupport.org/the-newe...et-t33328.html
My biggest worry would be the lack of a humidifier.
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Jan 26, 2014 | 8:20 pm
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XFed2001
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Originally Posted by glennaa11
There's a short thread here
http://www.apneasupport.org/the-newe...et-t33328.html
My biggest worry would be the lack of a humidifier.
glennaa11: Thanks for the link. Personally, I don't like the warm air effect. I just put distilled water in my Resmed S 9 and let the blowing air carry as much moisture as it can. I would presume that any standard tubing and mask works with the Z1. If you get one one, please pass on any opinion you might have ..... Thanks and good sleeping to you.
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Jan 27, 2014 | 5:09 pm
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dtsm
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The FT equivalent for hoseheads is cpaptalk.com. If OP posts query there, much better chance of getting multiple responses, etc. The folks over there are great people and very very helpful!
FWIW, I use the ResMed S8 autoset II on-board for long flights and never have ever run into problems in the past 4 yrs! And keep in mind if you plan to use in-flight, the power outlets will NOT support humidifiers and most battery paks won't provide enough power either. One good battery pak option is here: http://www.paulcbuff.com/vagabond.php.
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Jan 27, 2014 | 11:11 pm
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XFed2001
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Originally Posted by dtsm
The FT equivalent for hoseheads is cpaptalk.com. If OP posts query there, much better chance of getting multiple responses, etc. The folks over there are great people and very very helpful!
FWIW, I use the ResMed S8 autoset II on-board for long flights and never have ever run into problems in the past 4 yrs! And keep in mind if you plan to use in-flight, the power outlets will NOT support humidifiers and most battery paks won't provide enough power either. One good battery pak option is here: http://www.paulcbuff.com/vagabond.php.
Thanks dtsm. According to the website, their extra battery paks provide up to 14 hours of charge/use. Obviously, the attraction of the Z1 is the size and weight. BTW, I think one still has to get clearance from the carrier before using any device on board; AA still does not permit it -- at least as of last Feb.
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Jan 28, 2014 | 5:48 am
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dtsm
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Detail discussion on the device: http://www.cpaptalk.com/viewtopic/t9...ttery-too.html
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Jan 29, 2014 | 2:31 am
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BrassMonkehy
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Z1 C-Pap Machine
AA doesn't care about in flight use. The do however care about oxygen use and the FA may not know the difference. Just put it on and don't say anything. 99 times out of 100 nobody will say a word.
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Jan 29, 2014 | 5:39 am
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dtsm
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Originally Posted by BrassMonkehy
AA doesn't care about in flight use. The do however care about oxygen use and the FA may not know the difference. Just put it on and don't say anything. 99 times out of 100 nobody will say a word.
As a 'general' rule, most airlines post their respective policies on-line for travelers with disabilities [including folks who need medical devices]. For those who travel extensively, they usually keep a file of each airlines policies and often bring hard copies to deal with FA that are sometimes not fully 'educated'.
As example, AA policy is clearly spelled out in this link [scroll all the way down]: http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...nce/oxygen.jsp.
I have now used cpap in-flight for over 4 yrs, always on transPacific flights with primarily Asian carriers, including JAL, CX, BR, KR and Asiana. Some, like AA require prior notification, including device model number; others don't even know what the device is for??? I also used it on a UA flight recently from Tokyo to JFK, and a male FA and I compared our cpap devices....we exchanged tips and stories 
Never once have I encountered problems.
OP and others might also want to check out the Disability Travel thread for more discussions on cpap and travel. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/searc...rchid=19528013
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Jan 29, 2014 | 8:45 am
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tentseller
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I keep a printout of airline policies re CPAP inflight usage and keep them in my CPAP travel bag. I also use my own power and notify the airline which is the requirement.
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Jan 29, 2014 | 1:52 pm
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glennaa11
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FWIW, the online equipment sellers have customer reviews and some are starting to show up for this device. So it might be worth taking a look at those. I personally use cpapxchange most of the time. But there are many others like cpap.com
I guess those inline humidifiers are supposed to last for a week or so before they need replacing. So it might be a viable option depending on how well they work for trips of a couple weeks' duration.
I don't use a machine on the plane since I really don't sleep on planes anyway.
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Jan 30, 2014 | 10:02 pm
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jobartram
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I've used the Transcend travel CPAP for about 3 years now. It's very small - the machine, power supply, and tubing fit in an Eagle Creek "tube cube". Only the mask is packed separately. I don't take the humidifier. It's a tiny bit louder than my regular resmed but if I sit it on the floor (rather than on a bedside table) then the extra noise isn't a bother. Worth every penny.
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Apr 17, 2014 | 9:07 pm
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ikiebert
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Z-1 pro and con
PRO: Z-1 is small & light & very transportable, with small, lightweight battery, which fits snugly together with the CPAP in a neat little case. Functions well, can be programmed to ramp up pressure gradually. A bit noisier than my standard Respironics CPAP machine, but placing on floor of plane is good solution. Huge CON: The humidifier is a 3 long plastic fitting that you insert at end of tube connecting with mask. Instead of water chamber, it operates by recirculating your own moisture that you breathe out. Works ok. But big problem is that company says it is designed for single-use! And each little plastic fitting costs $6 !! This makes it prohibitively expensive if you travel as I do, typically for 2-3-weeks away several times a year. If I had understood this about the humidifier I would never have bought the Z-1. If you need humidifier with your CPAP, this is not a good option. I have to go back to carrying my standard machine all over the world.
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Apr 18, 2014 | 12:16 pm
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Paul56
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I have 2 Resmed S8 Autoset machines which are fairly compact
without the humidifier; however, I can only go about 3 - 4 nights
without humidity... then my nose gets dry and starts bleeding.
Z1: 6.48" x 3.3" x 2.02" 10 ounces
S8: 4.6" x 6.5" x 5.7" 2.9 pounds!
I would like to purchase a tiny travel machine but don't want
the trouble of maintaining 2 different systems.
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Apr 19, 2014 | 5:01 pm
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tentseller
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Originally Posted by ikiebert
PRO: Z-1 is small & light & very transportable, with small, lightweight battery, which fits snugly together with the CPAP in a neat little case. Functions well, can be programmed to ramp up pressure gradually. A bit noisier than my standard Respironics CPAP machine, but placing on floor of plane is good solution. Huge CON: The humidifier is a 3 long plastic fitting that you insert at end of tube connecting with mask. Instead of water chamber, it operates by recirculating your own moisture that you breathe out. Works ok. But big problem is that company says it is designed for single-use! And each little plastic fitting costs $6 !! This makes it prohibitively expensive if you travel as I do, typically for 2-3-weeks away several times a year. If I had understood this about the humidifier I would never have bought the Z-1. If you need humidifier with your CPAP, this is not a good option. I have to go back to carrying my standard machine all over the world.
I travel with the Transcend and R9s at homes (Toronto and HK).
The in line humidifier which captures moisture on exhale and added back on the inhale does work somewhat just like the Z1. It is not the same as a full evaporating humidifier.
Because the exhale is stale human air therefore it is "recommended" that the capture "filter" is used once. I have repeated using the same "filter" for three/four nights due to the filter is not covered by medicare.
I also use nasal gel in the nose prior to sleeping with the CPAP. Between the gel and the inline moisture capture I find it ok for travel.
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